Is there such a thing as a glorious death?

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Is there such a thing as a glorious death?

Answer 1

Glorious Death

Answer 2

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Is there such a thing as a glorious death?

When I was young I used to think how glorious it would have been to have been at the Charge of the Light Brigade or Rourkes Drift (made famous by the film 'Zulu') and to die fighting against overwhelming odds.



As I got older I started to see that those situations were really just sad and...

Answer 3

"Glory" is closely related to "reputation". For a soldier (as for many other professionals) his reputation is important. Musicians like to be clapped - and especially they like to be admired by other musicians. And so on. It's no different for a soldier -



Except, of course, that a musician or a surgeon doing his duty is not commonly at personal risk. A soldier can come up against a situation where he can either turn tail and save his life, but lose his reputation, or bravely continue fighting and probably die. Hence glorious death. Nelson at Trafalgar, the troopers in the Light Brigade, all chose the likelihood of death rather than the certainty of being called a coward. A soldier too frequently buys his glory dearly, paying with all he has to give.



That war, and its casualties, might be profitless is a separate question. What has happened as you got older is, perhaps, that you shifted your focus from one question - focused on glory, self-sacrifice and courage - to another, focused on different and arguably better human values.



The concepts of courage, reputation and, yes, glory are still however very much alive in military circles.



That respect for it, though typically military, is not exclusively so is shown by the public reaction to the two policement who (reportedly - the facts have since been disputed) declined to jump into the water to save a drowning child. Every reaction I heard to the initial report showed that the policemen had indeed lost their reputation: the words "inglorious" and "cowardly" were actually used in one newspaper report. No - glory, and glorious death, still seem to be alive and kicking.

Answer 4

It's death, however you call it.



The question is: do you want to die in a glorious way or do you want to do good for somebody? The former means nothing. It's superficial. The latter means that you don't think about death. So, if you think about dying gloriously, you are being superficial. And if you don't think about death but want to do good, you don't raise a question like that. I'm not saying it's a bad thing or anything.

Answer 5

A glorious death is objective to the one who perceives it. Such a term exists because some, I guess, most of us have a preferred manner or cause of dying. I often hear people not wanting to die because of old age.. because they deem it ungratifying. But that's just because they didn't have/failed to fulfill their purposes in life, if they had one.

Answer 6

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This is going to sound harsh at first, but please keep reading. No self-inflicted death is glorious. If you commit suicide many people will suffer because of your absence on the earth. I have studied near-death experiences for many years. My mother and two of my friends died and met God. Death is NOT ever the end. The cause of your misery is the total lack of involvement in other people. I have been, but no longer am extremely shy. Yes, shyness is genetic, but it is not a life sentence. You don't ever have to be outgoing, but you are free to change yourself. If you want to break the cycle of depression and misery that you wrongly believe you are locked in, volunteer to help somebody. You will be amazed to find that you feel alive for the first time in a long time. There are many organizations that need help. Look outside of yourself and you will find that life is good and worth living. If you really need more reasons not to do this, google "near-death and suicide". All the best to you. Choose life!

Answer 7

For example , you save a 10 year child by giving him your only bread when two of you are stuck in a desert . many will say that it will be a "glorious death" . But not dying at the war . I was in the military forces . when my comrades and i go on an operation , we are always prepare for "accidents" . we always know that today maybe our last . But none of us run away from a battleground . Because we know that if we run and save ourself , the alternative will be that our home and our family engulfed in war themselves. There are real threats in this world and trust me no one will ever want to see what we see there . And if we must die for it , then so be it . Yet when i am back in home , protected by the man and women out there in battlefield . I hear people criticizing their effort , saying that fighting is redundant and their effort is futile . But i can tell you everyone out that is giving their bread to us in this huge desert world . Is not this sacred and glorious ?

Answer 8

The concept of a glorious death is totally dependent on individual belief. If you lean towards viking or other similar warrior culture belief...then yes, a glorious death in battle assures your place in the afterlife. I think there are glorious ways to die...but in the end, it is still the end.

Answer 9

If I had a choice I'd rather be on the battlefield with a sword(not a gun-older type fighting). I say the Klingon culture is a wise one heh. Unfortunately this is not BC.



Dying while fighting would give us a sense of well worth in this world. Going out with a bang, other than letting father time drag us away.



Oh yes, The movie Zulu is quite slanderous, the British invaded South Africa and took resources off the land, then captured and enslaved the Zulu's. So ye if you want to be on the bad sad, then fight with the British heh.

Answer 10

to me it's an oxymoron - i can't see that it's the death that holds the glory, it's the action previous to the death that the glory describes.



the idea of glorious death is control it's a mainstay of organisations that believe themselves to high enough authorities to use life for the organisations own end.



So i'm in the 'NO' camp.

Answer 11

For me it would be a death whilst saving the life of another, not taking the life of another.

Answer 12

I don't think so.



Even 'glorious' battles are miserable affairs. Full of agony and horror.

Answer 13

I do not think that it is futile at all to lay down your life for a cause, or for truth. It is in human nature that we tend to sacrifice materialistic objectives of life for the sack of purposes higher in view. When two countries fight, for instance, both people find chances to consider many things seriously both collectively and also individually. People on both sides find their ultimate ways to express their loyalty and sense of belonging, which is only human. People on both sides find their heroes. The ones who once crossed the threshold of physical life in accordance with the codes of honour and bravery, never die. The causes are thus reinforces, and nations get stronger as their people get better in life. This is how human civilisation has been forged into its current state of being, and the exploits of which are embossed upon pages of history in iron, fire and blood.



I understand that there could be been causes that we commonly regard as unjust and wrong. But part from the over all big picture what about common people at the fore front who genuinely believed them to be just and right. When people dies in wars, for instance, that later on are condemned and sacrifices considered as waste of life even the there is no denying in the fact that the once who thought them to be purposeful managed to feel the way perhaps any human under similar situation should feel.



It is just like the example of someone having his rightfully eared food. It is just like the example of someone having his rightfully eared food - no one else’s hunger can be satiated by someone else’s meal. It is only the person who eats would feel what it is like, and how invigorating and meaningful it is for him.

Answer 14

No, I don't.

Heroic, yes... The circumstances may be heroic, just as you said "I saw those who gave their lives for others as having glorious deaths, whether it be on the battlefield or just in everyday life."

Death is brutal, its harsh and final. To willingly give your life for another, to face the possibility of death in pursuit of a cause...that's heroic.

Maybe its the way I, personally, define glorious. To me, something glorious is unutterably beautiful...something magnificent and touching in ways that I can barely explain to myself. Everyone defines words differently, though...to you a heroic death may well be glorious.

Answer 15

A "Glorious Death" is acompanied by blood ,dirt, the stench of spilled guts and people moaning, screaming and crying for their Mother !

Don't give me all that sh1t about glory!

Answer 16

what can I say, I don't even really understand the word "glorious".

perhaps, glorious deaths are like what Spartan always thought: to die in a battlefield while defending your country - or what you believe in.

Answer 17

Who could have a glorious death? You die. Everlasting life would be glorious life!!! Nobody can have a glorious death!

Answer 18

a 'Glorious Death' is something they tell the mother of a fallen solider who died in some needless way in some place that most people can't pronounce or even care about.

Answer 19

I'm with Dr Green on this one.

Answer 20

I say yes, fighting for your country, or giving your life to save others in a battle

Answer 21

depends on which end of the spectrum your on the dead or the living

Answer 22

The concept exists. Yes duh. We're talking about it.