A simple, but mind-blowing question: How do I think of I & you, compare to, how do you think of you & I?

Question

Warning: Answer with your own risk of getting mad.

"I think therefore, I am." is a philosophical Latin statement proposed by René Descartes.

Professor Lakshan Bandara extended it using the "Game Theory" of John Nash, as follows:
A mind-blowing question: How I update I and I update you?
(just take the idea out of symbolism used)

I-1 think (about I-0), therefore I-0 [I zero] am
// I-1 who think of I-0, define a new I-3

I-3 think (about you-3), therefore you-3 [you are] are
// I-3 defines I-4 by thinking about you,
// U-0,U-1,U-2 are imaginary to I-3, but may not be to I-0,I-1,I-2

I-4 think, that you-3 think (about you-2), therefore you-2 are
// I-4 defines I-5 by thinking you think about you,

I-5 think, that you-2 think (about I-4), therefore you-2 are

time = 0 1 2 3
I = I-0 I-1 I-2 I-3
you = u-0 u-1 u-2 u-3

This can be applied reversal as: you think that I think that you think that I think about you/I
Mind boggling isn't it?

The interesting point to notice is, if what I think and what you think, including the options(width & length)+depth and what you observe by senses do not match, one or more conflict(s) occur.

This the core of Buddhism, about Dhukkha (suffering/happiness), which caused by the gap of static self/definition (athma) and static permanence(nithya) or dynamic impermanence (anithya).

How do I think of I & you, compare to, how do you think of you & I, relative to sensible reality?

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Answer 1

Your "Simple" Mind Blowing Question is taught in

Psychology 101, you have taken this question and

made it so complicated you seem to be going in circles.



This question is not Mind Blowing, it is knowing yourself

and others...by use of both verbal and non verbal

communication...

In the Updating of

How 'I' think of I & You

is from knowing self, knowing 'You', plus

communication and observation with 'you',

and

How 'You' think of You & I

is knowing self, knowing "Me" plus

observation and communicating with You

about how You see You & 'I'



The Johari window is a technique created by

Joseph Luft and Harry Ingham in 1955 in the United States,

used to help people better understand their relationship

with self and others. It is used primarily in self-help groups

and corporate settings as a heuristic exercise.



Charles Handy calls this concept the Johari House

with four rooms.

Room 1 is the part of ourselves that we see and others see.

Room 2 is the aspects that others see but we are not aware of.

Room 3 is the most mysterious room in that the unconscious or subconscious part of us is seen by neither ourselves nor others.

Room 4 is our private space, which we know but keep from others.

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Answer 3

Are those old questions still going around? OMG, we thought we were so clever when we thought them up back when we were teenagers (about 50 years ago!).



50 years from now, you will shake your head and laugh.

These things ... it's all just intellectual games with no depth, no understand, no wisdom. It's "pseudowisdom" ... makes us THINK we're wise.



No, it's not mind boggling, and hasn't been so since I was 22 or 23.

Answer 4

This belief in a self is a mistaken perception, its an illusion. For example, if I asked 99 people "Is this I or you?," the first person would say, "its you." A second person would say, "Its you." I would end up with 99 people who say "its you" and only one would consider it as "I." Therefore statistically "I am suffering/ happy" is unimportant when compared to the whole.

Answer 5

Yeah, so what? Too few people know about this possibility let alone think on it.... have you read james hillman on relationships? You might understand and appreciate it.



So many people I have talked to about this idea, balk at the concept of them being just a construct for my education. It's an ego thing. They don't seem to understand that I am a construct of their mind too. It's hard to think about, and it solves so many problems!

Answer 6

Thibulis gubuluy ibulis fubulull obulof shibulit.

Answer 7

I'd hate to read one of your complicated questions

Answer 8

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