Technically dead, but still alive.............?

Question

I know this is impossible, but its a Philosophical question...
Before you read, please don't mention anything about the 'Soul' as i am 100% confident that no such thing exists, weather you believe so or not, don't mention the 'Soul'. =)

Real all before you answer :)

Lets pretend that we can make a human 100% similar to you in every way, made from the same cells, have the same memories, its basically you, but in another body, 100% the same...
Now, lets say you died...Then a short wile after you died, this new you, the made up you, comes to life, its exactly the same as you are, same genetic material, same memories, everything....
Would it be as though you just woke up, or would you feel nothing by the empty abyss of death.

What do you think?????

Answer 1

Well, if you could hypothetically do what you're saying, then you'd basically have another machine running the same software program. Despite the fact that the two machines have the same software program they're seperate entities, so the first program won't be recieving any data from the second; The second won't have received any from the first. The clone will wake up and may be under the impression he is you, but you won't be thinking much of anything.

Answer 2

The new body would't BE you because it would not have had the exact same experiences as you. Even if it did, it still wouldn't share your memories. If it were "made" exactly like the human being you are, there would be no ESP connection between you and it.



You said, "the same memories." You made no mention how, or for that matter, WHY it should have the same memories.



But, all right, lets just say that you COULD plug in the same memories and keep it up to date right up until the moment it wakes. It still wouldnt be you. You died, your consciousness passed away.



HE might think he just woke up as you, but YOU wouldn't.



This has been the subject of many science fiction stories. It comes up with plot line using devices like instantaneous travel from place to place. Suppose, there was a way to "scan" an entire body and digitize all the information, and then transmit the information to reassemble an exact duplicate somewhere else? What happens to the original body? You really can't have two of you walking around claiming to be the REAL you. In one story, part of the job of the technician who scans and transmits the traveler, is to make sure the original is "destroyed." Tecnically, it's kind of the way the Star Trek transporters work. The body is scanned and then destroyed in the same process. The recorded information from the scan is transmitted where it reassembles. (from what material is never explained)



In another story, the duplicates are an accepted part of the technology. But, those duplicates are only used in extremely dangerous and deadly situations, where it is not expected to survive, or come back. Imagine, that you'd volunteer for this. Someone needs a person to go into a dangerous, highly radioactive place and "take some readings" or something. You get scanned and then go on with your life. But your reassembled duplicate "wakes up" in this dangerous place and KNOWS he is going to die. What do you think this duplicate is going to think about YOU? Will he be grateful, or will he hate you for putting him in that position. Understand, YOU won't feel a thing, but that duplicate, who has lived YOUR life, right up untill the "scan," is going to die a painful, horrible death, and KNOWS it.

Answer 3

A study of neuroscience is a lot more in depth but a worthy venture for you if you are able to formulate such a question.



The sense of self is a combination of feeling or state of the organism and a memory of events and the knowledge you have built up. If the 100% you, up to date opened it's eyes it would be as if it never was interrupted. Regretfully, the coherent object that was the other you would no longer exist.



The philosophical dilemma is referred to as Odysseus' ship. From a story of Odysseus and his return to Greece.

Answer 4

This questions has roots in Star Trek.



Think of a transporter beam. If you've never seen or heard of such a device, imagine it works like this:



You stand on a machine. The machine scan you and is able to extract 100% of all of your features (including memories, cell structure, DNA coding--EVERYTHING, like you state). This machine is capable of using that information and assembling a new you that will be alike in all respects, just in a new location (the next room over, let's say). The new you has all of your old memories right up until the transport.



NOW! Let's say the new you walks in to the new room where you are. You call him an impostor, but he calls you the exact same thing.



You say, "No, I stepped into this transporter and it made you"

He says, "No, I stepped into the transporter and was taken to the next room... You who were left behind is the fake"



Which of you is right?



Star Trek avoids this confusion by assuming that the original person MUST BE DESTROYED in order for transportation to be complete.... but no one on Star Trek who has been transported will care, because as far as they are concerned they have just been moved to a new location.



Food for thought.

Answer 5

This would still be death, as the original would have died. You can create a carbon copy, but that copy is another organism that is not you. It would be like having a pet, let's say a dog named Lucky. You love Lucky so much, and eventually you find out that Lucky has lung cancer and will die. You decide to make a copy of Lucky, and soon the original dies. Despite the fact that the copy of Lucky essentially IS Lucky, in every form possible, the effect of the original's death will still pertain. Would you feel less sorrow for Lucky I, because of a replacement? No. Because he's still dead.

Answer 6

first of all your wording says it all...



similar...



similiar is not the same...



similar is not you.



second of all...



since it is not you, you or it can not feel what you feel and you would not be able to say if you were to feel nothing or something, in that you are not that individual...



the only way to do so is to share the word you don't believe in 'soul' or a different word, which is different from 'soul' which is spirit which is the ethereal energy of a physical entity, and in turn this energy, your energy can blend with this new body and become one with it.



lastly nothing is really dead, only changed in form of energy...



energy can not be destroyed...



theoretically speaking 'dead' or 'alive' one could share the same feelings or memories... but again watch my wording.... SHARE not HAVE. Being that both have not been created exact, experienced the same actions, feelings and emotions and of the same age, or body, they can not be deemed truly to be the ONE and SAME individual...



for a millisecond, can determine difference, even at the subatomic level, also if it were the EXACT, it would have been brought about in the same time and in the same way... ergo being the same entity in the same body, in the same plane of being.

Answer 7

If you have all the same memories and experiences as said person before death, then it would be like blacking out for a bit. Because you will have a last thing that you remember but the time will be after that. You won't remember dying. You won't be the same person but might as well be. It is you continuing on for all intents and purposes but it would do no good to the real you who is really dead

Answer 8

Wow! Bloody good question!



I would think that when "I" woke up, I would feel like I had been asleep. A dreamless sleep. Like when you are put under before an operation - you don't have any memories when you wake up. I don't think I would feel "empty". I think more than anything, I would feel rested.



Since, I can't make any religious statements, I won't!!!!! You are a tough bird, Stan!!!!

Answer 9

Yeah, you would be dead, last I thought, dead people dont feel anything. But then again, I'm not dead, so dont quote me on that.



Same memories, same cells, same etc. but different brain. Similar, but different.



No matter how you look at that, its still a different person. You would not be living their life, no matter how similar.



oh yeah. SOUL.

Answer 10

Let's think of it this way...



If twin sisters share the same experiences in life, make the same memory, go through the same obstacles and lead the same lifestyle..and one of them dies, will she be able to live her life through her sister ?



It comes down to logic, if you clone someone to be 100% like him, it's still going to be a clone and not the actual person.



Death is final--There's no coming back from it in any way, shape or form

Answer 11

Assuming you cloned this being PRE-death, then it wouldn't have the death memories. You would be dead and considering you cannot read your friend's mind, or live through your friend's mind, you won't be able to switch consciousnesses.

Answer 12

i'm particularly needed, ineffective. Oxford college has asked my techniques for learn purposes as quickly as I've finished with it. (heavily!) yet as for the Christian theology... I used to have self belief that, yet what i chanced on in the bible and its historic previous and that of the Christian church (analyzing to show Christianity with greater suitable precision, James 3:a million) finally directed me to atheism.

Answer 13

you will feel nothing your dead not the human