Question:
Can you dispute this verse with your science and philosphy?
The Knowledge Server
2009-08-18 22:30:31 UTC
“God finally told, “none of my creations can get rid of divisibility, comparability, connectivity, disturbability, reorderability, substituablity and satisfiability." Men and woman born under heaven with my wisdom are to experience and reveal these indestructible properties of mine through everyone and everything. My sons who realize my indestructible wisdom through these properties prosper in my kingdom. My sons who attempt to destroy my indestructible properties destroy their prosperity and acquire insanity.”


Which means:
1. Every creation is a divisible one.
2. Every creation is a comparable one.
3. Every creation is a connectable one.
4. Every creation is a disturbable one.
5. Every creation is a reorderable one.
6. Every creation is a substitutable one.
7. And, every creation is a satisfiable one.

YOU WILL ACQUIRE INSANITY IF YOU TRY TO DISPROVE THIS VERSE. DON'T YOU?

Can you dispute this verse with your science and philosphy?
Ten answers:
Deja Vu
2009-08-18 22:48:26 UTC
...how did he make them...where is his wife...such be god a creation of man...



...it is man who controls man to exert his power...
thechurchofdave
2009-08-19 10:57:35 UTC
This is a religious question.

Religion is based on faith.

None of the statements in this are even close to provable.

I disproved the claim of 1-7 in another post with the same question you put up and I am hardly insane.



Your use of the word creation is dependant upon faith.

As soon as a person without your faith in your belief system approaches the question it falls apart because none of the constants are any longer constant. In other words it is only a difficult question to those who believe it is.



I would have to assume that this was not originally written in English either so there are other problems. Your interpretation of the first paragraph into the 7 points is debatable depending on translation and interpretation of the person reading it. Also if this was written in a language other than English then the original translation and required interpretation becomes debatable.



Also there is the context in which it was written which we have no access to since you are not telling us where this comes from or who wrote it.



Next, if this was originally written in a non linear language then the ability to translate it into English becomes seriously debatable since it would have to be severely edited and interpreted during translation since English is a linear language.



In conclusion I find zero insanity derived from trying to find holes in your statements and find it would probably be much more difficult and insanity inducing to prove that they were in fact provable at all.
zealot144
2009-08-18 22:52:33 UTC
1) The universe is a non divisible one. It is complete, and cannot be fractured.



2) The universe cannot be compared, as there is no other to compare it to.



I think you, and the author of this verse, are misusing the word "creation". Persons and objects and concepts within the universe are products of the created universe. They are not specifically "creations". They are derivatives of the universe. In which case, 3-7 are arguably valid properties of those things you refer to as "creations", but they are not, specifically, "creations". They are derivatives.



Though, I must wonder, what "God" "finally told"?



What is your religious affiliation?
Peter S
2009-08-18 22:37:50 UTC
With 'my' science and philosophy?



I guess I would contest number 4 if anything. What does it mean to be "disturbed?" Doesn't that come into a subjective value judgment about something going from a "better" to a "worse" state?



Edit: alright, if disturb means effect then I don't really have any qualms, as long as a "creation" is a finite thing, and not the infinite whole.
wacky_racer
2009-08-19 00:01:48 UTC
In the GENESIS, Bible, it was said there that;

In the beginning there was light, and God saw the light that it was good...



Well, as you can see, the Big Bang theory has a beginning and to dispute the beginning of everything is disputing the creation.
anonymous
2009-08-18 22:43:40 UTC
Captain Kirk thinks you're a fool.



YOU WILL ACQUIRE INSANITY IF YOU TRY TO DISPROVE THIS VERSE. DON'T YOU?



Can you dispute this verse with your science and philosphy?







Edit: Just out of curiosity, where does this verse come from?
megalomaniac
2009-08-18 22:45:36 UTC
Nothing is indestructable. Newton tried to say so but Einstein in the end proved him worng.



Nothing is absolute, only relative.



The word 'every' in this sense is misleading.



There is wisdom to be found even in incomplete statements but if one believes in the indestructablitlity of anything one is in for a big surprise.



Wisdom is found in accepting one's failures not in trumpeting one's absolute knowledge.
Tim
2009-08-18 23:50:36 UTC
so was god talking to you when god said this or did you read it out of a book written by man meant to confuse and control you even rob you
geyamala
2009-08-19 11:21:57 UTC
this verse really can not be disputed with science and philosophy.
anonymous
2009-08-19 01:27:02 UTC
Duplicate question!!!

Peace.


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