Question:
What is wrong with objectivist philosophy?
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2016-08-19 11:50:22 UTC
By acknowledging that we are inherently selfish beings who only act out of a selfish desire for survival; we can begin to dispense with an imposed morality, thus ultimately living a longer, fuller and more successful life.

I don't see what is wrong with that.
Eleven answers:
2016-08-19 13:09:45 UTC
Objectivist philosophy is simply a way of justifying self interest and some of the worst aspects of human nature. It's more objectionable philosophy. Primitive desire for survival operates on a completely different level of existance to self actualisation the natural realm of philosophic principles and in particular Kants Categorical Imperative.



Morality is to be discovered rather than imposed, and success at the expense of others only leads to emptyness rather than a fuller and more successful life.
Plogsties
2016-08-20 15:42:23 UTC
I'm almost certain that all the folks on this site know of objectivism is what they heard from teachers/profs, most of whom probably never bothered to read Rand's writings and thoughts. The "selfish" notion that Rand espoused is equivalent to stating that I want to make the most of MY LIFE, keeping in mind the rights of others. There is NOTHING wrong with this and, aside from being just another philosophy which came and went (just as the current philosophies will disappear, to be replaced by new views) objectivism has much to recommend it, especially an optimistic view of man, in contrast to the despair of postmodernism.. Rand was openly hostile to academia and academia responded in kind, not based on the content of her philosophy but based on her views of academia.
Happy Hiram
2016-08-19 19:20:29 UTC
Okay. To start with read some existentialists. Perception is a strange process and the system of agreement people collude as objectivity is a rubbish pack of lies. We do not know how the universe works and very little of how the planet works, and when it comes to connecting what I experience to what is supposed to be out there the whole thing breaks down. Selfish, not selfish who cares? Objective reality DOES NOT DEFINATIVELY EXIST.



So Ayn Rand and her ilk can suck an egg because I am not buying.
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2016-08-19 14:13:34 UTC
I would not call it that more dog eat dog philosophy or instinct philosophy , to be objective requires a feeling of being one with all life the universe itself , it comes down to energy , to maximise evolutional fitness of mind and body humans require high goodness levels a state of energy , as an Evolutional Goodhist I increase the will to survive and evolve without doing harm to others .
Mr. Interesting
2016-08-21 01:32:30 UTC
"WISHING WON'T MAKE IT SO"



Ayn Rand’s philosophy, Objectivism, begins by embracing the basic fact that existence exists. Reality is, and in the quest to live we must discover reality’s nature and learn to act successfully in it.



To exist is to be something, to possess a specific identity. This is the Law of Identity: A is A. Facts are facts, independent of any consciousness. No amount of passionate wishing, desperate longing or hopeful pleading can alter the facts. Nor will ignoring or evading the facts erase them: the facts remain, immutable.



In Rand’s philosophy, reality is not to be rewritten or escaped, but, solemnly and proudly, faced. One of her favorite sayings is Francis Bacon’s: “Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed.”



Reality — that which exists — has no alternatives, no competitors, nothing “transcending” it. To embrace existence is to reject all notions of the supernatural and the mystical, including God.
RWPossum
2016-08-19 22:35:12 UTC
I see the career of novelist and would-be philosopher Ayn Rand as tragic. She had an idea for an engaging fable about an architect who valued his creativity above money or recognition. She could have made something good out of this.



Rand was an iconoclast who created and quickly destroyed her own idol.

Her architect hero, who has been blacklisted, agrees to design an apartment complex to house poor people, doing this anonymously and for free, asking only that it be built to his specifications. So horrified is he that his beloved apartment complex has been marred by inferior designers, he dynamites it. This allows him to plead his case in court,which vandalism, possibly a well-written letter to the Editor or Op Ed piece, could have accomplished without a threat of prison. At the end of the story, the newspaper publisher who has persecuted him apologizes and offers him a fat check to design a monument in the form of an office building named after the publisher. The architect, it seems, has forgotten the apartment complex he nearly martyred himself for and he grabs the check. He designs a skyscraper where the men in gray suits who were afraid to hire him would someday work. Possible closing theme for a remake of the movie - "Corporate Anthem" by DEVO.



Conservative columnist and publisher William F. Buckley, who admitted that he enjoyed The Fountainhead, called Rand's Atlas Shrugged "a thousand pages of ideological fabulism," adding, "I had to flog myself to read it." He said that people who followed Rand's Objectivism were going to Hell.



Of the various ways Roark could have gotten himself arrested, he could have thrown buckets of paint at Cortlandt, explaining to the arresting officer that his abstract expressionism added to the eclectic design. However, this would have constituted humor, which Rand never allowed in her writing.
STEVEN F
2016-08-19 12:11:19 UTC
The ASSUMPTIONS in your details are inherently NON-objective. What do you want to know? The philosophy you describe IS NOT objectivist.
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2016-08-19 11:58:59 UTC
Longer, fuller, and more successful for whom? Objectivism taken to its rational conclusion would be self-defeating, as every one acting exclusively in their own self-interest would eventually lead to failure to reproduce and raise children and the species as a whole dying off. Ayn Rand is not a trained philosopher, so her "philosophy" ended up being full of holes that are obvious to people who are, and has as much merit to it as the conclusions reached by a group of stoners gathered around a few large pizzas and a half-pound of grass.



https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Virtue-of-Stupidity-A-Critique-of-Ayn-Rand-and-Objectivism
Houston, we have a problem
2016-08-20 14:22:14 UTC
That's like saying that since we know we are going to die, we should dispense of any attempts to improve the quality of our lives, or to extend the length of our lives.
2016-08-20 10:28:03 UTC
Here, choose a link or three then read and learn: https://www.google.com/search?q=problems+with+objectivism&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Naguru
2016-08-19 17:58:14 UTC
Ensure that it is not polluted, contaminated or adulterated.


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