Question:
The identity of the identifier governs the identity of the identified. Do you agree?
The Knowledge Server
2009-05-07 22:36:54 UTC
The identity of the identifier governs the identity of the identified. Do you agree?
Nine answers:
Mountain Dweller
2009-05-07 23:01:05 UTC
The identifier governs the naming of the identified, not the identity of identified. Example: I, the identifier, can name an object, the identified, coming at me and say call it a "rose" but if it's identity is a 2000 pound auto it still will run me over. I don't govern the identity of the identified. We discover the identity of an identified existent. Post modern nonsense aside and it's attempt to make us into God we can only discover the identity of things. We don't govern existence -- consciousness is secondary to existence.



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Identifies and governs are totally, completely different things. To govern is to have masterly over a thing. To identify is to have awareness of a thing. To say the identifier governs the identity is make the identifier into some type of magical being on the level of a God. It makes the activity of consciousness be more fundamental than existence. To say the identifier identifies the identity of the identified is to acknowledge the awareness of the existence of an existent by the properties of it's being, it's identity. Two very different things.
guru
2009-05-07 23:23:12 UTC
Problematic.



The statement is reminiscent of projection in psychology where an aspect of the self (identity) is projected onto an object (the identified).



I am a male which does not affect the identity of a female who I identify. Therefore it does not govern the identity.



How I identify you or anyone else has very little to do with my own identity, so it is unclear as to why you are attempted to make an association between these two.
anonymous
2009-05-07 22:48:02 UTC
Yes, I agree. So is that saying the identifier is the identified because the identifier is using his identity to identify the identified, and there isn't really any space between them? And because the identifier is using his identity to identify the identified, there isn't any real communication between the identifier and the indentified.
elenchuskb
2009-05-07 23:11:47 UTC
No. You wouldn't agree either if 20 people identified you as someone's murderer and you identified yourself as NOT that identical person's murderer. IDENTITY:- absolute sameness. I suppose that to you the CARRIED is identical to the CARRIER.



Protagoras LIVES on in a new generation of "analysts"!!! Thank heaven for DNA and FINGERPRINTING.



Kevin
Sire .
2009-05-07 22:45:56 UTC
Thaat literally doesnt make sense. The error stmes from the first word "identity" The identity of someone can'T do anything.







Another Problem solved ha!



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oh and no i dont agree
anonymous
2009-05-07 22:56:56 UTC
I agree. It's relativity. How you see the world is based on your own perspective, thus everybody sees the world differently.
wacky_racer
2009-05-08 01:25:05 UTC
Not so, we have this resistance that will make things more appropriate for ourselves. You may call it self preservation to deal on all things that may come into hand.
evil chucky
2009-05-08 02:42:54 UTC
exactly how many times have you asked this same question this question is this like a school project or sumting to see how many people will answer and what they will say??
Dr Funkenstein
2009-05-07 22:42:21 UTC
art is in the eye of the beholder's beholder.


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